I got to know Matt a few months back when I found out what CU Boulder has going on in its music department.

Some schools have a downloadable pdf about musician wellness.

Well, CU Boulder College of Music has a whole DEPARTMENT for it!

In today's episode, I sit down with the embedded psychotherapist in that department, Matthew Tomatz

It was an AWESOME conversation!

He shares his thoughts on the different types of injuries and how healing looks different for all of them

How healing is RARELY linear.

It is often cyclical! How our body whispers before it screams, and why it is so HARD to listen to those whispers until it's too late.

And so much more!

Keep on keepin' on!